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part of what mitt romney is counting. unemployment, people have given up on looking, people with part-time jobs who would like to be full time. and counting people underemployed. like barack obama he is taking generally okay numbers and stretching them to the breaking point and that makes his claim also false, wolf. >> bottom line, what is the bottom line when it comes to jobs, the whole issue of the facts of the jobs issue. who benefits the most? >> well, once he pushes out the up and down, everything else, absolute unemployment rate, and it's a fact for a president to get re-elected with a high unemployment rate. all of the presidents re-elected since the 1950s and relative unemployment rates. dwight eisenhower, 4.1%, richard nixon, 5.6%. ron aeld reagan, 7.5%. and bill clinton, 5.1%. second george bush, 5.4%. and then look at barack obama down here. 8.1%. a whopping number for any president to carry into a re-election campaign. barack obama made history when he got elected the first time. if he gets re-elected, that wi
part of what mitt romney is counting. unemployment, people have given up on looking, people with part-time jobs who would like to be full time. and counting people underemployed. like barack obama he is taking generally okay numbers and stretching them to the breaking point and that makes his claim also false, wolf. >> bottom line, what is the bottom line when it comes to jobs, the whole issue of the facts of the jobs issue. who benefits the most? >> well, once he pushes out the up...
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don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obamacare instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> reporter: the president argued that romney must have liked healthcare reform at some point. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts. governor romney did a good thing. >> reporter: then it was onto leadership. romney complied there has been a lack of it in washington with the president at the helm. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. in my state, we had republicans and democrats come together. you pushed through a plan without a single republican vote, instead of bringing america together, and having a discussion, you pushed through something that you thought was the best answer. >> reporter: the president indicated that romney may not know what he's getting into. >> he's going to have a busy first day because he's also going to repeal obamacare, which will not be popular. >> reporter: let's talk about the exit p
don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obamacare instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> reporter: the president argued that romney must have liked healthcare reform at some point. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts. governor romney did a good thing. >> reporter: then it was onto...
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romney returned to his recurring theme, calling obamacare a job killer. >> i just don't know how the president could come into office, facing rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obamacare instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. >> reporter: the president argued that romney... >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts. because governor romney did a good thing. >> reporter: then it was on to leadership. romney implied there has been a lack of it in washington with the president at the helm. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i like the fact that in my state we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did instead was to push through a plan without a single republican vote entirely on a partisan basis instead of bringing america together. you pushed through something that you and nancy pelosi and harry reid put together. >> governor romney is going to have a busy first day, because he's also go
romney returned to his recurring theme, calling obamacare a job killer. >> i just don't know how the president could come into office, facing rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obamacare instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. >> reporter: the president argued that romney... >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts....
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and mitt romney got a chance to put forward his plan and vision this evening and i think it's going to have a significant impact on the narratives in days and week as head its interesting the debate elevated the discussion. we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad. it's about the issues and i thought that it was for that reason a good debate. that was very impressed by and pleased with the governor's performance tonight. i think it gave him an opportunity he hasn't had before with people who are undecided. they had to have walked away tonight impressed by what they heard and saw. >> g
and mitt romney got a chance to put forward his plan and vision this evening and i think it's going to have a significant impact on the narratives in days and week as head its interesting the debate elevated the discussion. we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the...
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he's on the unemployment line. so what is with governor romney's obsession with firing big bird? >>> plus, folks, we are putting up the facts that mitt romney misrepresented about his plans. they're on our facebook page. please go there. check it out. facts do matter. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. whatever your business challenge, when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male an
he's on the unemployment line. so what is with governor romney's obsession with firing big bird? >>> plus, folks, we are putting up the facts that mitt romney misrepresented about his plans. they're on our facebook page. please go there. check it out. facts do matter. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪...
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he shot back with repeated references to the unemployment rate, 8.1%. it could be the most frequently recited number in the campaign. >> going forward with the status quo is not going to cut it for the american people who are struggling today. >> reporter: obama and romney are fighting over voters in a handful of states. those americans could swing the election either way. the candidates have one month and two more debates to win them over. mami mochizuki, nhk world, denver, colorado. >> in a cnn poll held soon after the debate, 67% of respondents said romney won the showdown while 25% said obama did. >>> u.s. marines in okinawa are have made their first training flights of an aircraft that's been plagued by controversy. the first ospreys arrived in japan's southernmost prefecture on monday. an osprey took off this morning from the marine corps futenma air station. it headed for an airfield on an island in the east china sea. the plane returned to futenma after two hours. a second osprey took off later. the crew practiced takeoffs and landings on the is
he shot back with repeated references to the unemployment rate, 8.1%. it could be the most frequently recited number in the campaign. >> going forward with the status quo is not going to cut it for the american people who are struggling today. >> reporter: obama and romney are fighting over voters in a handful of states. those americans could swing the election either way. the candidates have one month and two more debates to win them over. mami mochizuki, nhk world, denver,...
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for 90 minutes, the candidates faced off over taxes, unemployment, economic regulations, social security, health care, education, partisan gridlock and other domestic issues. romney repeatedly attacked obama's record, often putting the president on the defensive. many supporters of obama have expressed surprise that he never mentioned several of romney's potential weak spots, including his record as the private equity firm bain capital. also his vast personal wealth and offshore investments, and his recent remark that 47% of americans are government dependents. some domestic issues went virtually unmentioned wednesday night, including immigration policy, global warming, gun control, incarceration rates, and poverty. some key voices were shut out the conversation, including those of third-party presidential candidates. as obama and romney were facing off at the university of denver wednesday night, "democracy now!" was just miles away airing a special three-hour broadcast expanding the debate. we broke the sound barrier by pausing after president obama's and romley's answers to get real-t
for 90 minutes, the candidates faced off over taxes, unemployment, economic regulations, social security, health care, education, partisan gridlock and other domestic issues. romney repeatedly attacked obama's record, often putting the president on the defensive. many supporters of obama have expressed surprise that he never mentioned several of romney's potential weak spots, including his record as the private equity firm bain capital. also his vast personal wealth and offshore investments,...
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what romney said is, i can do it. and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right. >> now what he dead, and i don't think he actually changed any of his policies. i've been following this campaign painfully so at times minute-by-minute for the last year or so. up don't think he changed substantively. what i think he did was use different language and tone. when he began talking about the role of government he talked about caring for people who are less fortunate. >> not scaring. i got to get out. steve we're going to have you back again. love to have you back. jennifer's going to hang around for awhile for the full show tonight. i want to switch gears. this goes to w
what romney said is, i can do it. and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right....
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you can expect both candidates to have a say on the 8.1% of the unemployment rate and the national debt. keep in mind with early voting under way in 10 states already, many americans have already cast their ballots. still governor romney and presideet obama have plenty of opportunity to hurt or help their campaign in the next nine minutes. no cheering, no. now, the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> good evening from maaness arena at the university of denver in denver colorado. i am jim lehrer of pbs news hour, and i welcome the new to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one ice- presidential, are sponsored by the commission of presidential debates. tonight's nine minutes will be about he domestic feature and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15 minute segments with two-minute answers. for the first question, then an open discussion for the remainder of this section. i made
you can expect both candidates to have a say on the 8.1% of the unemployment rate and the national debt. keep in mind with early voting under way in 10 states already, many americans have already cast their ballots. still governor romney and presideet obama have plenty of opportunity to hurt or help their campaign in the next nine minutes. no cheering, no. now, the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> good evening from maaness arena at the university of denver in denver colorado. i am jim...
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and then helped year, the president owes its signature a form which mitt romney wants to undo. >> i don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion if fighting for obamacare for two years instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. >> if you appeal obamacare, and have become fond of the term, if you repeal it, the seniors right away would pay $600 more in prescription care. >> at times barack obama looked weary. as the dust settles, both sides will be fixated on the polls, with two more encounters still to come. bbc news, washington. >> a classics by ring in action or a common criminal case of smuggling? moscow insists there's no espionage after 11 people were charged in the u.s. with illegally exporting high-tech components with potential use in military systems to russian security agencies. one of them, and owner of companies in texas and moscow, was charged as operating in the u.s. as an unregistered agents of the ru
and then helped year, the president owes its signature a form which mitt romney wants to undo. >> i don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion if fighting for obamacare for two years instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. >> if you appeal obamacare, and have become fond of the term, if you repeal it, the...
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unemployment? what did he say about the future? >> governor strickland? >> what deductions was mitt romney willing to lay before the american people? >> what he said is -- >> he has an idea but there's no detail there. and the american people know that when you cut taxes for wealthy people and somebody's got to pay the freight man. somebody's got to carry the burden of keeping this government running, of paying veteran benefits, of making sure medicare is secure, of protecting social security. i mean, mitt romney is devoid of specifics. and that's the problem with the mitt romney plan. >> you know, i think the problem with your analysis of romney's campaign is that you're using obama's spin points. we are going to cut veteran benefits, we are going to decimate social security, all of which is utter nonsense. the bowles simpson, obama's commission, i don't mean to get wonky here, chris, said they were going to lower the upper rates on americans far more than before. and by the way, governor romney said that you could look at the bowles simpson as a good st
unemployment? what did he say about the future? >> governor strickland? >> what deductions was mitt romney willing to lay before the american people? >> what he said is -- >> he has an idea but there's no detail there. and the american people know that when you cut taxes for wealthy people and somebody's got to pay the freight man. somebody's got to carry the burden of keeping this government running, of paying veteran benefits, of making sure medicare is secure, of...
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so for the romney campaign they want you to think 8.1% unemployment and think barack obama and the obama campaign wants you to think 47%. they want you to think of romney's effective tax rate at 14%. but the president didn't go there tonight. he missed those opportunities and left an opening for the romney campaign. >> pelley: >> pelley: juliana, thank you very much. joining us right now is major garrett from "national journal." one of the subjects covered tonight was health care, the affordable care act which some people call obamacare a term the president endorsed tonight. he said he liked that term. i wonder what you thought of the cases that were made by governor romney and the president on health care. >> scott great to be with you. i thought the health care debate was a prism into which to look at the entire economic debate which this debate was focused on largely. but health care talked about jobs, mitt romney said the president's health care law will cost jobs. the president said no it will provide jobs and security. so you saw strong contrast between the perceptions of what the
so for the romney campaign they want you to think 8.1% unemployment and think barack obama and the obama campaign wants you to think 47%. they want you to think of romney's effective tax rate at 14%. but the president didn't go there tonight. he missed those opportunities and left an opening for the romney campaign. >> pelley: >> pelley: juliana, thank you very much. joining us right now is major garrett from "national journal." one of the subjects covered tonight was...
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as you know, the unemployment rate is at 8.1%. it is only that low because people stopped looking for work. previously at 8.3. it's now at 8.1%. the president promised the american people years ago that we would be in a much lower rate, especially after all the stimulous spending. what governor romney said was that jobs were his number one priority and outlined a plan. what struck me was that the president only talked about creating 100,000 jobs, teaching jobs in this country, which of course is federally funded. >> let's hear what mitt romney had to s. the moderator put this to mitt romney as well. here was mitt romney's response to his economic priorities tonight. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know you keep saying that and it's a popular thing to say, but it's not the case. >> for 18 months, he has been running this tax plan and now five weeks before the election, he is saying his big bold idea is never mind. >> michelle, they are talking tonight about not getting enough information to these v
as you know, the unemployment rate is at 8.1%. it is only that low because people stopped looking for work. previously at 8.3. it's now at 8.1%. the president promised the american people years ago that we would be in a much lower rate, especially after all the stimulous spending. what governor romney said was that jobs were his number one priority and outlined a plan. what struck me was that the president only talked about creating 100,000 jobs, teaching jobs in this country, which of course...
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it was devastating and romney waited until the end to do it. and a fuselage at the end which i thought was very, very effective. >> president obama argued the tax plan was a rehash of the george w. bush but that's a fact. >> the approach governor romney is talking about it is the same sales pitch made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they
it was devastating and romney waited until the end to do it. and a fuselage at the end which i thought was very, very effective. >> president obama argued the tax plan was a rehash of the george w. bush but that's a fact. >> the approach governor romney is talking about it is the same sales pitch made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the...
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mitt romney summer at 11:30 at abingdon, virginia. we will hear from both of them about the unemployment report coming out at 8:30 tomorrow morning. those events will be live on c- span tomorrow. by in fishersville, virginia, here on c-span, waiting to hear from mitt romney and paul ryan. ♪ a big crowd gathered in fishersville, virginia to hear from mitt romney and paul ryan. we are running about an hour and a half behind or so. later, we will show you the president's comments from earlier from denver. he will also find those in our video library. after the mitt romney event, we will take your phone calls and reaction. also, with this evening, an event with arnold schwarzenegger, who has opened a new thing take on global policy at the university of california. he had a discussion on partisanship in politics. here is what he had to say about the issue of partisanship in washington. >> you have to have the guts to do it. every police officer that i have met. they do not know they can see their family again. that is correct. >> what yo
mitt romney summer at 11:30 at abingdon, virginia. we will hear from both of them about the unemployment report coming out at 8:30 tomorrow morning. those events will be live on c- span tomorrow. by in fishersville, virginia, here on c-span, waiting to hear from mitt romney and paul ryan. ♪ a big crowd gathered in fishersville, virginia to hear from mitt romney and paul ryan. we are running about an hour and a half behind or so. later, we will show you the president's comments from earlier...
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it is all gone now and i am broke and i filed for unemployment. people were beating up on romney saying we feel like victims. i am ready to buy into that. i feel like a victim. i am ready to go out there and get every government assistance program i can get because i have given up. i agree with romney. he's right. we are victims. i hope we get a new administration in there that puts me back to work. i will work for myself. small businesses is the keystone for this country. if these fools on capitol hill let us go back to what this country used to be, they can go back to their system and get their own health care and we will take it from there. that is how i feel. host: do you have two minutes to stay on the line? i have no idea if the next caller is going to be an obama or romney supporter or not, but we will see what comes out. georgie, brianna, good morning to you. caller: good morning. how are you this morning custom? i am a single mom. last year i was in the hospital and i could not vote. this year i will be voting. i am ready to see a change
it is all gone now and i am broke and i filed for unemployment. people were beating up on romney saying we feel like victims. i am ready to buy into that. i feel like a victim. i am ready to go out there and get every government assistance program i can get because i have given up. i agree with romney. he's right. we are victims. i hope we get a new administration in there that puts me back to work. i will work for myself. small businesses is the keystone for this country. if these fools on...
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and governor romney hammered the president on this last night. look, the unemployment rate has indeed come down. why has it come down? because of the creation of a whole bunch of new jobs? no. because literally millions and millions of people have just quit. they've dropped out. they are not looking for work. they're out of the labor market. in august alone, 368,000 people dropped out in one month. they just walked away from the labor force. that just is in one month. since january of 2009 when president obama came into office, 8,419,000 people have just walked away from the labor force. when you shrink the labor force like that, the unemployment rate does indeed go down. >> gretchen: you think the debate last night, that it was effective for romney to point that out, because one of the arguments that i've made is that when the unemployment rate went down from 8.3 to 8.1, that on the simple terminology of just look at the number, that people would go oh, the economy is getting so much better. >> yes. it looks good, doesn't it? that's where the il
and governor romney hammered the president on this last night. look, the unemployment rate has indeed come down. why has it come down? because of the creation of a whole bunch of new jobs? no. because literally millions and millions of people have just quit. they've dropped out. they are not looking for work. they're out of the labor market. in august alone, 368,000 people dropped out in one month. they just walked away from the labor force. that just is in one month. since january of 2009 when...
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. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive ste. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> the president made his points in a slower, more laid back, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top-down economics where folks at the top are doing well, so the average person making $3 million is getting a $250,000 tax break while middle class families are burdened further. >> romney was determined to go toe to toe. >> well, but virtually everything he said about my tax plan is inaccurate. if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say absolutely not. >> the president did get digs in. >> for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan, and now five weeks before the election he is saying that his big bold idea is ne
. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive ste. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> the president made his points in a slower, more laid back, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't...
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so governor romney really needed a game changer tonight. i hate to say this but i find myself agreeing with chris christie. governor romney really needed to turn the world upside down. he really need ad game changer tonight. i think you would be sore pressed to find that magic moment that was the game-changer tonight. and, so, that was my view in watching it anyway. i also thought the president did a very good job finally nailing governor romney down to admitting he does want to turn medicare into a voucher program. i thought the president pushed back on that very effectively, when he said, hey, if you're 55 you might want to listen to this. i'm still not sure exactly what governor romney was saying about his promise of $5 trillion in tax cuts. i mean i heard the platitudes but i didn't hear any specifics. and, i thought he was doing a lot of shape shifting on that one. >> governor, good evening. this is rachel. we've been talking on set here about our surprise we didn't hear more from the president on his standard attack line. we thought w
so governor romney really needed a game changer tonight. i hate to say this but i find myself agreeing with chris christie. governor romney really needed to turn the world upside down. he really need ad game changer tonight. i think you would be sore pressed to find that magic moment that was the game-changer tonight. and, so, that was my view in watching it anyway. i also thought the president did a very good job finally nailing governor romney down to admitting he does want to turn medicare...
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. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, laid back manner, often appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top down economics where folks at the top are doing well so the average person making $3 million is getting a $250,000 tax break while middle class families are burdened further -- >> reporter: romney was determined to go toe to toe. >> virtually everything he said about my tax plan sin accurate. if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. >> reporter: the president did get digs in. >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold i
. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, laid back manner, often appearing disengaged. it's not that he...
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unemployment went down to 5.6% under governor romney in massachusetts. it's gone up to above 8% under president obama. he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions so you wouldn't, you know, necessarily eliminate a loophole, you would limit how much of them -- how many deductions you could take. that would give people discretion. you could figure out how high that should be. should it be a percentage of income? should it be a set figure? there are a lot of ways you can get these things done, willie. but again, if you do it in a campaign environment, you say here's this one, here's that one and people lock in on one side o
unemployment went down to 5.6% under governor romney in massachusetts. it's gone up to above 8% under president obama. he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he...
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. ♪ i'm happy to be me >> reporter: to the unemployment line all because of a couple of mitt romney lines. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i love big bird. i'm not going to borrow from china to pay for it. >>. >> reporter: you tell that so-and-so romney, anybody who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his finger. >> the one we all know and love? >> reporter: showed up in a dough bait split screen. his reaction was a scream. >> i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to keep borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: including a message spelled out for mitt. >> f-f-u-m-i-t-t. >> i like watching big bird. i like watching big bird and bert and ernie for my grandkids to watch. >> gave president obama flack for not sticking up for big bird. >> he got rid of your jobs, now he wants to get rid of big bi bird's job. >> the president joined in. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. >> reporter: to be clear, cutting pbs fundi
. ♪ i'm happy to be me >> reporter: to the unemployment line all because of a couple of mitt romney lines. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i love big bird. i'm not going to borrow from china to pay for it. >>. >> reporter: you tell that so-and-so romney, anybody who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his finger. >> the one we all know and love? >> reporter: showed up in a dough bait split...
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. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, more laid-back manner, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top-down economics, where folks at the top are doing well, so the average person making 3 million bucks is getting a $250,000 tax break, while middle class families are burdened further. >> reporter: romney was determined to go toe to toe. >> but virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> all right. go ahead. >> so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say, absolutely not. >> reporter: the president did get digs in. >> for 18 months, he's been running on this
. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, more laid-back manner, often looking down, sometimes appearing...
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and i think that the next thing we'll hear is maybe unemployment will be interesting. i might change -- i'm not a buyer of romney, per se, because what happens is is that could be throwing good money after bad. i like to cut my losses and put more money toward my winners. and i didn't hear anything last night that would make me trade as a portfolio manager any different as much as it might have been exciting. >> we're going to talk beyond coal and solar and energy a little later on. >>> first, as you probably know, a grim outlook for hp sent shares down 13% yesterday. ceo meg whitman expects revenues and profits for the tech giant to decline in the near term saying unprecedented executive turnovers led to inconsistent strategic choices. our david faber is with meg whitman. david, good morning to you. >> reporter: thanks very much, carl. of course, well, you can certainly give them credit perhaps for transparency, hewle hewle hewlett-packard yesterday laying out a plan tofor remaking the company for next year they're calling a fix and rebuild year. as you said, the stoc
and i think that the next thing we'll hear is maybe unemployment will be interesting. i might change -- i'm not a buyer of romney, per se, because what happens is is that could be throwing good money after bad. i like to cut my losses and put more money toward my winners. and i didn't hear anything last night that would make me trade as a portfolio manager any different as much as it might have been exciting. >> we're going to talk beyond coal and solar and energy a little later on....